Teach Broad, or Teach Deep? Coverage versus Depth
Published February 24, 2009 @ 03:00PM PT

Let's take a break and talk about teaching and learning for a change. This policy stuff will make your eyes bleed if you look at it too long at a stretch.
Below is a comment I left on a history teacher's blog after Skyping into a professional development workshop at his school in the Philippines from my apartment in Korea today. They were talking about "learning 2.0," "digital literacy," "21st century teaching and learning," name your buzzword. The new tools and possibilities, at bottom. The history teacher asked the question that often comes up in this context: "How can we give time to this when we have so much material to cover?" And it's a reasonable enough question. Here's my stab at one answer - or at least more questions. The ones about research, I hope some of you might be able to teach me about in the comment thread.
Here's a podcast of that discussion, by the way. As an example of free professional development, it's interesting. I was in my living room in Seoul, speaking to teachers and a tech coordinator gathered in a classroom after school in Manila, the Philippines. It's 45 minutes long. We talk about how blogging, Twitter, and social media in general has transformed my own life as a teacher and a person - and how it can change students' too - and then about how teachers can use or, depending on method, abuse these new tools when they try to integrate them in classroom practice. I've supplemented the discussion with links to further reading and examples here. (And I know full well that the French Revolution was in the 1790s, though I said "1890s" in the talk. D'oh!)
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And here's that comment about the dreaded "coverage versus depth - for the sake of high-stakes tests" dilemma. I want to call it:
Spoons for Feeding, and Spoons for Digging: Two Approaches
A student who took AP World History the year after I had her for a grade nine European history class came to me during lunch and said the AP teacher lectured every class, and nobody was learning anything. (He told me he hated it, but he had to, because he had to cover 5,000 years for the AP Exam.) They wanted to come to me during lunch so they could understand it coherently - as narrative, cause/effect, the Great Story. It had little to do with technology. To me, it had more to do with active versus passive learning.
If a teacher “delivers” something to me, s/he did all the heavy lifting. All I did was sit there, possibly napping, and have it dropped in my lap. If the teacher lets me deliver, I have to do the lifting. I can’t fake that.
The students could have been giving the lectures instead of him. He could have quizzed them on the student lectures to keep the other students listening. It would have given variety to the class that the same teacher lecturing week in, week out can’t give.
Question: Do we have any evidence that teaching everything the course says to cover, even if it’s bloated beyond reason, leads to learning of everything that’s taught? Or to more correct answers on that test?
I don’t know, but I suspect that students who studied fewer chunks, in more depth, might remember more come test time. Because what they did cover, they were given time to learn.
Those who never learned due to the fast pace of the delivery? Don’t their test performances mostly rely on dead-week cram sessions of discrete facts - many of which they probably mis-remember on test day anyway? Again, I don’t know, but I suspect. And if that’s true, that’s tragically ironic: because the teacher’s desire to save time actually produced a colossal waste of learning for an entire course.
I’d love to see an experiment where students were given a week to cram with, say, an AP World History test-prep book - Barron’s or whatever, but never took the class. Reward: college credit for the course. Then compare their scores to those of students who sat through lectures for a year, and then crammed during dead week. I wonder how significant the difference in test scores would be?
A happy medium between full expulsion of some parts of the content and equal coverage of them all is to help students memorize the chronological time-line in its largest periodizations. That gives them better odds at acing a few more bubbles.
Philosophically, I’m attracted to an approach that says flatly: I’m not teaching you all the content so you can get a grade for your transcript. If I do that, I impoverish something more valuable than your GPA (if that’s the case), because you’ll remember a few things short-term, but learn next to nothing of value. (I do have evidence of that that I wrote about here, on how AP seniors knew shockingly little, and understood less, about history after 11 years of being A students in many history classrooms.) So you need to study some other things on your own.
Hm. Or better still: in this Moodle forum, or wiki, or whatever, with your friends.
To me, this isn’t a question about technology. I’d be tempted to make these choices in order to slow down with chalk, pencil, and paper just as much.
(For more posts on "21st century learning," see these.)
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My answer: teach however you want to, but give me motivation to do the "home work". It's not as hard as it sounds, either (no, you don't have to pretend to be "passionate"). I'm currently in AP Japanese, although I think teaching a foreign language is a little different than, say, an AP History (students can't really get away with cramming -- but in language there's still the fight between teaching broad/patterns and depth/vocabulary in the short amount of time we have). But there's a huge problem in the class. Our "boring as hell"Japanese teacher has made the four most highly motivated students in the grade (as there are only four of us) *completely* give up. None of us are going to take the AP test and have stopped doing homework; this isn't because the work is difficult, or because we hate Japanese (we used to love it; we didn't take the AP for the AP, but to push ourselves). It requires minimal effort to get an A- in his class, and I think that's the problem. We can feel his boredom; we don't feel like we know anything. In every other class, the four of us have an insane work ethic; so it's not the subject as much as the teacher's attitude (*even* over teaching style, I believe). There's no variety. We're all so sick of him, of the class, of its "inhumanity".
"So you need to study some other things on your own."
I'm not saying that it's a teacher's job to motivate... but I honestly think that students are very receptive to teachers' attitudes. If we feel as if the teacher doesn't care, we don't care. That "energy" that a teacher gives off might be that final push that determines IF (not "which") students to do a little extra-work (contrary to popular belief: that some students will take advantage of "caring/easy teachers"). Teachers also need to gain respect; although I wouldn't really call it "respect" (as it's forced for all authority figures, and never always genuine) as much as *sensing* that a teacher cares about the class and their success. That he is *more* than a lecturer; it doesn't matter if the work is too much, too challenging or too fast -- if a student feels that a teacher cares, he/she WILL do the extra work (the class being an "AP" doesn't motivate the student, either -- it only adds pressure. Students, I believe, can handle a lot of work. We have that ability; but we don't always have the attitude. And it's conditional; it's earned. It's not a "special student personality-trait", it's an acquired attitude towards each seperate class/teacher).I'm not saying a teacher needs to set hours for each individual student (obviously) -- but I really need to sense that a teacher generally cares about the class; who has that "it's not about the grade" attitude (example: my English teacher let me "get away" with not summarizing Poe's The Black Cat in 2-pages because my last 5 Moodle posts were a 10-15 paragraph Freudian orgy. He doesn't "go by the book" and count every percentage point like my Japanese teacher -- or those rigid math teachers -- so it motivates me to do MORE to show appreciation. I enjoy putting in the effort, because I get more out of it than "just for myself" because "I know I have to do well in the class". Students will work for teachers, too -- how much are we willing to just do for ourselves, anyway? A "responsibility" is negative; a "goal" is positive. It's the student/teacher attitude, the student/teacher relationship. I'm watching Obama's speech as I type this, so forgive me if I misunderstood something/everything in your post :-) *As for forcing understanding... I feel like students can understand and remember anything. There has to be interest to hold on to the "fact" long-term, and motivation to "repeat" by themselves. However, some abstract concepts (not much in history, as it is factual... but psychology, for instance) can be more difficult for some students than others because of student learning style (concrete vs. abstract thinker).
Posted by Teny Eurdekian on 02/24/2009 @ 06:57PM PT
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Teny, I'd love you to guest-post the occasional paragraph or two sounding off about the difference between good teaching and bad.
But in my experience, getting students to just relax and write for adults is a losing battle, so I won't push. Let me know if you're game.
Little short things, you know. Zingers about one aspect at a time.
Posted by Clay Burell on 02/26/2009 @ 11:52AM PT
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I should start off by saying I teach preschool and I have not experienced first hand the coverage vs. depth dilemna. (If we want to explore how to make mud, we will spend however long we need and get as deep as we want to until the kids have learned everything that they would like to find out about mud) However, in the majority of conversations I have had with high school teachers about their practice, they express the concern stated above, "How can we give time to this when we have so much material to cover?"
The majority of the teachers I talk to would love to explore a topic in depth involving the students in engaging activities that they are invested in. However, they feel their hands are tied by the content dilemna.
In a way, I feel the early years approach could serve as a model for educational reform. In the early years, we aim to create an environment for children to explore and ask questions. Our main focus is scaffolding their explorations so they learn to seek answers on their own. There is an overwhelming excitement and celebration over new discoveries.
Shouldn't the primary focus of our school system be to foster learning by encouraging students in building their own knowledge? Wouldn't this set up individuals for a more successful future with the ability to guide their own learning and seek answers to questions on their own? I was a successful student throughout school, but the majority of the content that I was able to memorize at the time is lost to me now.
My impression is that there is an overwhelming majority of teachers that agree with this model/stance. I understand there is a certain amount of content that students should learn through school, but I maintain the process is almost always more important than the content.
Albeit, it is much easier for me to say without the pressures of GPA, SAT, IB, and college entrance.
When will the revolution happen???
Posted by Matt Pelkey on 02/24/2009 @ 11:20PM PT
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Matt, your comment is uncannily similar to that of another primary teacher (in Manila) who wrote this fine post on his own blog.
I think you two should know about each other.
And I agree with you both, fwiw.
Posted by Clay Burell on 02/27/2009 @ 12:08AM PT
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Hre's a thought experiment for you, or rather a question I've asked myself from time to time. As a math person who therefore never is required to use or think about history, I've forgotten nearly all the history I learned in high school. I learned it well enough in high school to do well on tests; indeed, I was such a good test-taker that I tested out of taking the gen ed history in college. Pondering this fact has led me to the following two questions:
1) Was there value in my learning all that stuff in the first place? If so, what? (The answer to this question isn't entirely obvious to me--and it applies widely, because long-term retention in general, for all subjects, is some rather small percentage of what we learn.)
2) If "outcomes" is what it's all about (and frankly I don't think it is)--what kind of test would we give to people say ten or twenty years after graduation to find out what the impact of our education really was? And how would that test--which presumably would address the actual "value added" of our education--be related to the tests we're giving kids in schools?
As for "breadth vs. depth"--it's been with us a long time, and I doubt it's going away any time soon. Part of the reason is that different people value different things in the curriculum. As soon as anyone suggests tossing something out to make time for more depth (or a new topic, for that matter) someone else will rise up in passionate defense of the threatened material. "How can you say ___ isn't important!?"
It used to be that individual teachers chould prioritize and spend more time on some things, less or none on others--but no longer. It's one of the reasons people end up teaching to the test. If you can't do everything--and you can't, or as I prefer and often tell my students, it's not that the teacher can't cover the material, it's that the students get lost in the process--you have to set priorities, and if the jobs of every adult in the system depend on kids scoring well on tests, the test will set the priorities. To say nothing of fairness to kids--it's no fun for them to be tested on material they have had zero opportunity to learn.
My own preference would be to set clear priorities in the curriculum, and do them in depth in basic courses, and address other topics in electives to get a bit more breadth. Easier said than done, of course. Even if only one person were to attempt to set the priorities--let alone if we had to come to come kind of consensus about them. Theoretically, that's what state standards are or should be doing, but they sure haven't been much help in California, at least. Quite the opposite.
And of course, the problem is much worse for you history people, because more and more history keeps on happening all the time. At least the math holds still a bit more--though it's not as static as most people think, and technology raises serious questions about how much of the traditional math curriculum is still relevant, and what else we maybe should be doing instead.
Posted by Jean Mitchell on 02/25/2009 @ 07:47AM PT
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Jean, your first question makes me cry, especially since it doesn't surprise me.
Short version (I'm tired these days):
If history is a chain of events to be remembered and tested on, I agree, it's of little to no value. (Same with math, science, and literature, for that matter.)
But if history is an opportunity to learn how power is gained, exercised, and lost (by all competing interests) and put to just or unjust ends; or to learn how what we think of as normal and natural - timeless reality - is actually temporary, evolving, changing over time, historically-caused and conditioned, and so forth? Then it's made today's students tomorrow's intelligent citizens.
And of course, history teachers who teach it the second way are dangerous to parents who don't understand history's lessons, and so they are very vulnerable to job loss for encouraging the critical thinking that makes history so valuable. And that's a reason tenure is valuable.
History textbooks also get fatter because the textbook companies try to satisfy the local boards of every state, and pander to them by fattening their pages with the local heroes. It's ridiculous.
Anyway, the "value-added" I think should decide for history education is not"How much history have you remembered?", but "How sophisticated are you at thinking about contemporary events in political, economic, military, and cultural terms?"
I'm certified secondary English, but have a much harder time justifying literature classes than I do history ones. Thank god I was just hired to teach Asian history full time this August. :)
Posted by Clay Burell on 02/26/2009 @ 10:27AM PT
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Hi Clay
Thanks for your response. This is in fact the 4th time that I have sat down and attempted to reply to your comment, all others have been lost one way or another, and so my fingers are crossed that I will actually make it to the ‘Submit Reply’ button.
I will share a wee secret with you, I almost totally agree with your points. Having been an extremely disaffected high school student myself, I have great sympathy with students who are being subjected to, what you have termed, ’schooliness’. Surely education should be about learning something useful rather than reciting something pointless.
As for your analogy about active learning, again, I am with you there. Prior to becoming a school teacher I spent a few years working as a sailing instructor that taught me a thing or too about the importance of active learning.
A couple of the techniques we used to prepare students for their first taste of controlling the boat on the water were descriptions aided by simple diagrams and dry land drills. Students would listen to the instructor describing a ‘tack’ or ‘gybe’ whilst watching him relate the description to a diagram on the board. The instructor would then move on to allow the students to practice the mechanics of the turn using a couple of chairs, a stick and a bit of rope. Finally, having mastered the theory and the praticalities of what to do with their hands and feet, they would be cast adrift on the water to apply this learning in context.
In my experience of high school the first step was used in almost every lesson, the second step was rarely ever used and the last step never employed except on field trips.
More on field trips later.
As for the experiment you mentioned, have you ever seen this guys attempt to pass A level sociology with only 2 weeks studying. Not sure about the aim or relevance of his experiment but I guess it does demonstrate that some people are able to ‘learn’ large chunks of information quickly more easily than others.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2005/aug/16/schools.aslevels
But can you really decide not to bother with certain aspects of the syllabus?
What about our obligations to prepare students for exams?
What would students want us to do? (I asked some of mine today-no answers yet)
What about ambitious parents paying astronomical school fees in the hope of (exchange for) top grades and Harvard scholarships?
I feel I have a professional responsibility regardless of my personal philosophy.
It might be because I am a bit green when it comes to the high school teaching game but I would like to think that I can cover the content and also assist in students developing some useful understanding and skills. I hope that web 2.0 tech will help me on this quest. I will certainly try.
Hmmmm fieldtrips.
Now you would think that field trips would be a great way of developing understanding, making connections, demonstrating relevance or at least getting the students actively involved.
Well, my experience of trips recently has been that the students spend a day walking around under the sun getting lectured to. That to me is the very essence of schooliness
I will keep you posted about my attempts to do something useful on the field trip front
Posted by Tom McLean on 02/26/2009 @ 01:54AM PT
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Tom,
Great, great line: "Surely education should be about learning something useful rather than reciting something pointless."
Loved the sailing class example, too.
And really loved the link. I followed it, and then found the second article, in which we learn that two weeks of cramming for an exam via a revision guide, instead of taking the actual sociology course, earned him a 97% (with intelligent caveats about the diffs btw sociology and other subjects). This line jumped out, for some reason:
"Traditional education is very good at teaching us the background to the second world war, and rightly so, but it is far less willing to provide us with the critical tools for living in the modern world."
I already touched on this in my reply to Jean, above.
I've never taught an externally-assessed history course - AP, IB, whatever - and I suspect it's more difficult to prep students for that than it is for the AP Literature courses I have taught. The Lit courses require only that students be able to read and analyze English from the 16th c. to the present, so I could teach representative texts from each period as I chose. It was manageable.
How to do that in a history course in which questions from any and all periods of, say, world history, could pop up is gnarlier by far. Especially if they focus on facts instead of analysis. Do they?
But I still think that an emphasis on "essential questions" - "How does power work? How and why do beliefs and societies change?" etc - that can be applied to all those periods are ways to make it "stick," first, and to make unknown events easier to understand via the transferability of those essential questions. If I know about the Dynastic Cycle in China, I don't need to know anything about some of the revolutions in order to be able to make a pretty educated guess concerning their chief factors, events, and players.
But as for your question about responsibility to parents? I think parents would be sympathetic to an explanation that some outside study of topics not covered in the syllabus (in depth, anyway) is an expectation. Teacher provides those topics, maybe quizzes on them, and hopefully sets up an online discussion forum for them to let students discuss them and teach each other - but otherwise, those topics are beyond the classroom focus.
That other suggestion: pure memorization of the major periods - timeline, major characters and events - can work. I've had students memorize history from the Trojan War to Renaissance that way through simple mnemonic tricks, and that at least assures they have their periods and dates in proper chronological order, and know the basic facts about them that may appear on those damn memory tests. I assigned that at the beginning of the year, and quizzed students on it monthly until the end of the year. The had the "big picture" by the end.
Arg. Too long, and probably too muddled. I'm tired.
What an interesting discussion, though.
Re: field trips? I hear you. I'm no fan. When the agenda is decided by the teachers, there's little hope of buy-in from the students.
The grail is finding that opening in student defenses by asking that question that makes them curious, makes them not want to be ignorant. But that question has to be framed in a way that makes all of time relevant. I think it exists. I think that warmer quiz I popped in that link I shared with you - "Take this jumble of historical events and put it in chronological order" - comes close. It at least shows students how ignorant they are about the past, and teases them with the promise of being less ignorant while there's still time.
Too long, too long.
By the way: To save losing comments, before you click "submit" _anywhere_, try this trick: ctrl + A (select all of comment), ctrl + C (copy comment to clipboard), _then_ submit. If it's lost, just ctrl + v into the comment field again, and that pastes the lost comment. Voila.
I learned that trick far later than I should have. :P
One last thing: I didn't link to your post because I feared I was setting you up as a straw man. I didn't want others to see you as that, because I knew your point was more complex than my treatment of it. One of the hazards of blogging.
Posted by Clay Burell on 02/26/2009 @ 11:19AM PT
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And Tom, This post is I think the best answer to the problem I've come up with.
Let me know what you think.
Clay
Posted by Clay Burell on 02/26/2009 @ 11:35AM PT
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Jay Matthews at WaPo just wrote about the issue, with new research seeming to support my theory about less content = higher test scores (for science, though).
Thought you might be interested.
Posted by Clay Burell on 02/27/2009 @ 12:11PM PT
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It won't surprise you, Clay, that this is the point at which I begin to wax lyrical about how much I love MYP (and to a lesser extent, the DP). And, now that I am reading this post, thinking about assessment, content, skills, un-schooling, and how it all fits together, I realize am rather puzzled that you've not yet explored any of the IBO's curricular frameworks.
MYP (and its primary-school cousin, PYP) allows for teachers in all subject areas to focus on depth rather than breadth, because the depths is where the skill is at -- most importantly, all those critical-thinking skills. In theory, in an MYP English A classroom (English A=English for native or near-native students), I could teach one primary text all year long. Now of course that would probably be rather boring, but my point here is that the text -- ie., the content does not matter. What does -- the skills needed to approach the content.
Like I said, I could go on, but I won't say much more here. Suffice it to say that my philosophy matches MYP's and involves teaching the skills required to make the content accessible. And the assessment? Lucky me: MYP assessment reflects my philsophy. In fact, in the English A assessment criteria, only one aspect of all 13 aspects has to do with "understanding of the topic or theme."
Posted by Adrienne Michetti on 03/02/2009 @ 07:47AM PT
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The first author of the "breadth versus depth" study and his colleagues have organized the National Testing Survey (testingsurvey.us). It's a great way to make a statement about testing.
Posted by Theo Dawson on 03/30/2009 @ 01:21PM PT
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