Education

Another Flaw to Grade-Based Teacher Evaluations: Disruptive Student Ratios

Published May 13, 2009 @ 01:51AM PT

[A]lthough they are dexterous enough upon a piece of paper, in the management of the rule, the pencil, and the divider, yet in the common actions and behavior of life, I have not seen a more clumsy, awkward, and unhandy people, nor so slow and perplexed....
--Jonathan Swift, Gulliver's Travels - A Voyage to Laputa

Robert Pondiscio at the Core Knowledge blog picks up on a study covered in Education Next that finds that a single disruptive student can bring down an entire class' achievement. While that's probably obvious to any teacher, it's still good to have a study providing "data" for those to whom what is not measured cannot count as true.

Robert's article is worth a read, but there's an angle I want to add here: namely, that the study seems to seriously undermine the validity of any attempt to evaluate (and pay, retain, and promote) teachers based on their class performance on standardized tests.

Obviously, if Teacher A has one or more disruptive students in a class, and Teacher B doesn't, this study suggests that the effects of the disruptors in Teacher A's class will degrade their grades come test time - and lead to Teacher A being labeled a "bad teacher." Teacher B, meanwhile, by the luck of the draw, will suffer no such handicapping come test time.

If we want to get Swiftian and add yet more measurement-mania to the value-added teacher assessment procedures being developed up there in Laputa, I suppose we could suggest that individual students' disciplinary records - principal's office visits per class, number of suspensions per year, etc - be factored into each teacher's test-based rating. To be fair to students, too, since their performance will be tracked from year to year, each of their records should include the number of disruptive students they had in each class each year.

I'm only half kidding.

I wrote recently about the French film, The Class, which follows a class containing a disruptive student for months, and then shows the same class after that student had been expelled. The night and day difference in time-on-task and learning atmosphere is enough to make any democrat uncomfortable: we believe in equal education for all, yet a single troubled troublemaker can create unequal learning opportunities for his or her classmates, while the neighboring classrooms have no such handicap.

I had such a situation last year. A couple of students who, when they chose to come to class, sometimes came on time, sometimes with their course materials and homework, sometimes not. I finally decided to bar them from the class and send them to the principal's office for the duration, until they decided they could get their act together. I'm not saying it's the perfect solution, but it at least let me and the rest of the class learn in peace.

I read last year, also - maybe on Charlie Roy's blog, maybe Barry Bachenheimer's - about a school that increased its counselor staffing to deal with disciplinary problems. I don't know if that's a solution, either - especially with today's budget cuts.

But I do know, getting back to the problem this study points to concerning teacher assessment based on student achievement, that Ed Sec Arne Duncan has embarked on a "listening tour" to hear our thoughts about his plans. I hope he listens to this one.

Image of Laputa from Swift's Gulliver's Travels

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  1. Derek Viger

    Clay, I read this last night.  After reading your post I decided to let my thoughts marinate for a while.

    Wow!  That was my first thought that night.  This study totaly turns a lot of what I believe on education reform on its ear.  Those who read my blog know that I favor clear expectations and goals for teachers and students, accountability for those goals, and flexability on how we get there.  Literally one bad (maybe distruptive is a better word) apple CAN spoil the bunch.

    If we base teacher, school, and district assessments on student testing (or grades) alone one distruptive student can scew scores dramatically.  This "domino effect" as Ed Week put it can drop a whole classroom's scores, sending out a damaging ripple.  That ripple can hit everything from a teacher's pay and or rentention to a district's funding or a school's chances of being open.

    Aside from it's association with testing, how do we solve this issue so that the kids who want to learn can?  Some schools have become almost afraid to discipline children.  Of course there is some well placed fear behind this.  The real threat of being gunned down or knifed still exists in some schools.  Let's continue with the assumption that this threat as been dealt with and the school is already safe in that respect.

    What lasting consequences are there of disciplinary actions?  Is dentention really punishment?  Having had a few in my school career I would say no.  You do you homework, read a book, brood quietly for an hour or so.  Then you go home.  Big deal.  And anything save a Saturday dention or a suspension did not follow you along.

    To begin, we must be clear with students what behavior is expected and what will not be tollerated.  The punishments for inappropirate behavoir must be clear as well.  Exceptions should not be made and the same punishments should follow the crime each time disruption occurs. 

    Punishments must carry weight.  I'm going months back to a subject I advocated for a solution, civics education.  Community service should be a primary way to pay for disruption.  That could be within the community at large, or the community of the school.  This would serve a few purposes. 

    - Working in a community builds a sense of community.  You are less likely to be dispresectful to your community when you have worked to keep it up.

    - Others will see that you have broken the rules.  Peer judgement is a huge factor to school age children.  Few children will want their peers to see them being punished.

    - You will get the community kept up.  The improvements disciplined children are doing will help keep schools clean etc and encourage things to be kept up.

    Is this a blanket solution?  A magic discipline potion?  No, I would never argue that about any reform.  It is however a nessicary step in the right direction.

    Posted by Derek Viger on 05/14/2009 @ 04:53AM PT

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  3. Charlie  Roy

    @ ClayAnother great post.  The discipline issue in schools can sometimes become "the issue" in schools.  A classroom with "the bully" or some other chronically disruptive student can take the focus off of learning.  As a principal I've always viewed it as one of my unpleasant tasks to remove these students when the learning has been truly compromised.  Determining where the breaking point lies is a difficult endeavor.  There have to be chances for redemption and change.
    We don't like to give up on students.  Sometimes the issues have deep origins.  We try to find these students help to address the core issues that lead to the problems in class.  Sometimes an undiagnosed learning disorder, problems on the home front, parental issues, etc.  and then again sometimes the kid is just an out and out ass hole.  
    I've helped students find "other placements" with success and sometimes with failure.  The impact on achievement is probably quite noticeable.  It would be a helpful endeavor to look at average student performance before and after the removal of the disruptive student.  I have certain teachers who are better at molding disruptive students.  I go through the schedules every year and alter it to fit the students "who need more love" with those teachers who have a talent for working with these individuals.   It doesn't solve all the problems but it does make a difference.  

    Posted by Charlie Roy on 05/16/2009 @ 06:27AM PT

  4. km fullerton

    increased staff in the counseling/student management department is a must in some schools.  NOT to simply enforce and supervise detention but to work PROACTIVELY with behavior issues.  This is a guidence and education problem.  Not 'reading and writing' education but the educaction/intervention/plan that will help students behavior in the long term as well as short term in the immediate classroom.  Without the staff to devote to that sort of planning and follow through we are left with the outdated and ineffective model of 'send the kid to the office/detention/suspension' with little or not remediation of the underlying problem.  There should always be a safe place to send a student in an emergency discipline situation, but our infrastructure drops off after that to deal with the student who will respond with a more defined behavior assessment and plan.  There are students who may respond to a detention or for whom a threat of detention is enough there are more students for whom this solution offers NO guidance, help, or insight.

    Posted by km fullerton on 06/02/2009 @ 09:59AM PT

  5. Soodle Billy

    Detention isn't always gong to work and isn't the best appach. The child will feel like the teahcer is his/her's enemy, and thats not a way to sort out a behavioural problem.

    Posted by Soodle Billy on 09/11/2009 @ 01:18PM PT

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